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    Standard privater Autokauf - Verdacht auf Trickbetrug

    Hallo!
    Ein Freund von mir will sich einen gebrauchten Golf 4 kaufen, dieser steht derzeit angeblich noch in den Niederlanden und der Verkäufer will für die Kaufabwicklung extra nach Bremen kommen.

    Nun, nach einigen Mailaustäuschen schlägt der Verkäufer ein Prinzip vor, bei dem ein anderer Bekannter von uns schonmal mächtig auf die Schnauze gefallen ist.
    Ich poste die Mail von ihm einfach mal, daraus ergibt sich das meiste.

    Hello Mr X,

    We confirm the meeting for Saturday at 11:00 a.m. in Bremen - McDonalds (Vahrer Straße 197). There is no problem for us to check the car by a professional garage as TUV or DEKRA.

    Please read this message carefully in order to understand our position.

    We want to be sure that you will come to the meeting. I think that you want to be sure of our coming too. You will be the single person who will check the car and if you will not come to the meeting, we will lose money and time (it is the same for you).
    I consulted my wife about this and we have a proposal for you. If you accept our proposal, we will come to the meeting.

    My wife will go to the Postkantoor (Postbank in the Netherlands) tomorrow and she will transfer 3,000 eur to my name to Germany, Bremen using Western Union Service. I will take the money back from Postbank in Bremen. We will send you a copy of the transfer document as soon as the money transfer to my name will be done. This will be our proof that we will come to Bremen. I will have to take the money back there so I will have to come to the meeting.

    We want the same thing from you. Your wife or a friend of yours can go to the Postbank Office there in your city and transfer 3,000 eur to your name using Western Union Service. You do not need a bank account in order to use this service. It is a money transfer service designed for family money transfers (from a person to a person).
    This is not a pre-payment. The money transfer will be done to your name. You, Mr XX, will take the money back from Postbank in Bremen on Saturday when we will meet. You will send us the copy of the money transfer document after the transfer will be done. This will be your proof that you will come to Bremen to meet us and that you will have the money for the car ready to pay us (of course if you will decide to buy the car).

    We will meet and then we will go together to the Postbank Office. You will take the money back by presenting your id card. You will pay us in cash and we will give you the car and the papers if you will decide to buy the car.

    The transfer will cost you 150 eur. If you accept our proposal, we will pay you back your transfer costs at the moment when we will be there in Postbank in Bremen. You will have no money to lose in this way.

    Please think about this. We just want to be sure that our way to Bremen (350 km) will not be in vain.
    It is also good for you because you will not have to carry such an important amount in cash with you. We will meet, you will see the car and then we will go to Postbank to take the money back from our money transfers.

    If you do not accept our proposal we will not come there. It is a risk that we want to avoid.

    We will wait for your message/decision!

    Greetings,
    XX
    In dem Fall des bekannten ist der "Verkäufer" mit gefälschtem Personalausweis zum Konto gegangen und hat das komplette Geld abgehoben.
    Wie seht ihr das? Denkt ihr der Kerl hat vor zu betrügen?
    Was kann mein Kumpel tun um den Kauf vielleicht doch erfolgreich abzuwickeln und nicht betrogen zu werden?

    Grüße
    Geändert von ChaKuZa. (10.07.2012 um 16:39 Uhr)

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